Talk:Origins of carpets

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 Definition Tradition of carpet weaving that predates written history. [d] [e]
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Jim, good to see a new author on board. I have one suggestion/question/comment/whatever you want to call it. As I read this, the first thing I thought was that this might be better included in a general article about carpet and then if certain subsections grow large enough to warrant their own articles, we can go from there. You, however, appear to be the rug expert, so I could be wrong. :) --Todd Coles 15:32, 6 February 2008 (CST)

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Maybe a sub-page? J. Noel Chiappa 21:39, 18 April 2008 (CDT)

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Thanks for the comments (and editing help). Yes, I have been 'playing' with this for some time and finally just threw it out there like it is. Perhaps now that my feet are wet I can expand on it like that. I question whether we need/want a couple of external links but one was created for this and readily returns to this page. Jim Bennight 16:40, 6 Feb 2008 (EST)

Typically we try to constrain external links to the external links subpage (We haven't set that up on this article yet) and within the article we wikilink the key words (putting brackets around a keyword that will link to another article on the wiki - for example, [[carpet]] will create a link for an article by that name. carpet). Forgive me if I am misunderstanding you or telling you something you already know. --Todd Coles 15:57, 6 February 2008 (CST)

Thank you. I've been registered for a while but am truly a newbie. heh, now I guess I'll just have to create some of those pages for the keywords. Jim

There is a page on Aeschylus. I have the name in double brackets but that does not provide a link to the page. Jim Bennight 18:44, 18 April 2008 (CDT)

'Double bracket' links only work within Citizendium. If you want to link to something on Wikipedia, you can use the MediaWiki template {{WP}}; {{WP|Aeschylus}} produces Aeschylus. Note that a link to anything on Wikipedia would be considered an external link, and should go in the "External links" section, not in the article body. J. Noel Chiappa 21:39, 18 April 2008 (CDT)

Title and workgroups

A thought on the title - Carpets are also commonly called Rugs. So, should the title be Origins of Carpets & Rugs?

And what work group? Many consider it to be an art but there is, of course a Business aspect. Jim Bennight 20:18 6 Feb 08, (EST)

First, we can produce a redirect from Origins of rugs, History of rugs, etc, etc. I will wait to create these until we've decided whether we want this to be a stand-alone article, etc.
Second, we have the abilty to file an article in more than one workgroup. However, while Carpet might be a business, I doubt Origins of carpets would be! J. Noel Chiappa 21:39, 18 April 2008 (CDT)

Content, origins of piled fabrics

Some of this text isn't really about the origins of carpets, it's about how they are produced. Useful text, but we might want to move it somewhere else.

Also, I seem to recall reading somewhere (maybe in a book I have on the Pazyryk) that one theory of the origin of piled fabrics is that they were already weaving ordinary cloth, and someone had the brilliant idea to emulate a fur by tying threads around the intersections, which is naturally not that big a step (if you already have ordinary weaving). Is there any archaeological data on the origin of weaving itself? I seem to recall something about impressions of woven fabric in some ceramic items, which gives us an idea of how old ordinary weaving is. And if ordinary weaving is something that nomads might have done (they certainly do it today), I don't see it as so unreasonable that nomads might have invented piled fabrics. (Of course, as you rightly point out, these are all theories - and we're unlikely ever to find out for sure.) J. Noel Chiappa 21:50, 18 April 2008 (CDT)